Veterans Serving From 12-7-41 May Become Eligible for The Combat Action Badge

Veterans Serving From 12-7-41 May Become Eligible for The Combat Action Badge

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Combat Action BadgeThe United States Congress is currently debating the eligibility requirements of a United States Military award known as the “Combat Action Badge”. This military badge was established on May 2nd, 2005, and was awarded to a recipient for the first time in June of that same year. It is a prestigious award created for the purpose of displaying a soldier’s service in a live combat zone. The badge’s requirements dictate that one must have served in the United States Army Unit in a situation that is officially labeled as combat. In other words, the award can only be awarded to someone who was physically present at a place of U.S. military action while engaging or being engaged by the enemy.

Currently, only those who have served in such a situation after September 18, 2001 may be awarded the Combat Action Badge. This specific requirement is being debated heavily however. There are many who believe that the countless men and women who have served and sacrificed for our great nation over the past years and wars should also be eligible for this award. It is proposed that the award should be available to members who served in active combat since December 7th 1941, when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor marking the beginning of the United States’ involvement in the Second World War. This notion would mean that every soldier who was involved in active military conflict since December 7th, 1941 would be eligible for the Combat Action Badge. This would include World War 2, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, the War on Terror, the War in Iraq, and any other United States public military action involving open combat after December 7th 1941.

It is good to know that there are those in congress who fight for the honor and remembrance of those who have served in the United States Military in the past. Tell us what you think by leaving your comments below.

Veterans Serving From 12-7-41 May Become Eligible for The Combat Action Badge, 9.3 out of 10 based on 21 ratings
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  1. Bob Setliff at 1:00 pm
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    It should apply to ALL services not just to the Army. I was on the ground in Viet Nam while in the Air Force during the Tet Offensive. And there were many Navy Forces on the rivers In Country and the Marines fighting also.

    • mark goldberg at 1:44 am
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      You said it all , I also was in viet nam in 1967,1968, chu lai, in the air force, at night that area needed defence by all of us , all branches of service , we fought charlie right next to our service brothers every night so why should all of us be excluded from this award because of a date which cuts off so many deserving warriers from viet nam and before . Be fare, check the records and send the medals to all deserving warriers. Retroactive.

    • Lexy Arnhoop at 12:22 am
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      By your theory, everyone in the military that performed the role of infantry should be eligible for the CIB. If your service is important to the air force, they should create their own award.

      • Leonard Corwin at 1:09 am
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        It’s not a theory that congress, not the army is considering this medal. If that is the case, then the medal should apply to members of all service members that actually, personally fought with enemy forces in specific documented battles.

        • Larry B at 9:06 am
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          I am starting to believe that service members diagnosed with TBI and PTSD should be awarddd the Putple Heart or they should stop calling it the ” invissble wound”.

      • Doug Temple at 11:00 am
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        Guys, the Navy/U.S.M.C. came out with the Combat Action Ribbon in 1969.Since the Global War on Terrorism , there is the U.S.A.F. Combat Action Medal.Both are retroactive to 12/07/1941, with documentation.The Army’s Combat Action Badge is the only combat award that is anchored to a date in 2001 and forward,including the Combat Infantryman’s Badge, and the Combat Medic’s Badge.CIBs and CMBs are authorized in the rank of Lt. Col. and below.CABs are wide open. That is why we see so many Army Generals wearing them.I have a friend, blown up by an I.E.D., lost his hearing in one ear, was awarded a Combat Action Badge ,then denied a Purple Heart . Where’s the justice ?

    • William Lewis at 6:32 pm
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      The Air Force has it’s own Combat Medal and Ribbon. So Does the Navy.
      The Air Force and Navy made theirs retroactive. Why not the Army ?

      Your point in moot.

    • William Lewis at 12:13 am
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      The Air Force has their own Combat Action Medal and Ribbon. So does the Navy & Marines.
      These are all retroactive. However, they are stiffing Army Vets and not giving us our due, by witholding the CAB to prior combat service.
      Badges are issued through the Army. If you want a CAB, you should have joined the Army.

  2. Arthur S. at 2:00 pm
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    Could easily be verified if someone was the recipient of the Purple Heart, a medal with a "V" device, CIB, CMB or commendation whose narrative states such an action took place. I'm more upset about not getting the Air Assault Badge promised by Wesmoreland for the more than 50 air assaults some of us completed while serving with the 101st. Did receive two Air Medals though. As the military is rapidly shrinking, could make the difference for retention points.2 tour combat RVN vet 1970-1972.(100% serv connected disabled)

    • Charles Sevilla at 3:58 pm
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      Right now , you have to be in the Infantry, or assigned such as a Medic/ Corpsman, in Combat Action with unit. Hope this helped. Charlie Sevilla, Ret. USA- Combat Medic. ODS.

    • Robert Stewart at 12:08 am
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      Just the opposite, flew into Cambodia and Vietnam Combat LZ’s got the Bronze Star w/V device and cluster, also Army Commination Medal w/V device and cluster, and CIB, and Purple Heart but didn’t get my Air Medal for Eagle flights into hot LZ’s. And cold LZ’s. Go figure..

  3. Jeff Norrup at 6:24 pm
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    When will we know if this will pass, and will the VA get a hold of us ?, or do we start asking the VA now?

    • Ralph Capps at 9:18 pm
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      the Va (thank God) would have nothing to do with this proposed award. But If all war vets write to the reps and senators in Washington and tell them to get off their sorry asses and miss one or two cocktail party, then maybe they will pass this legislation. Also it might be aventagious for all who may be eligable to write President elect Trump!

    • Baker, 1SG (Ret) at 10:50 am
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      Bob, This I agree so much and do actively fight for, I am a retired 1SG, wounded
      In combat, Iraq Aug- 2005, .Baker, 1SG (Ret), 75th RR 3rd BTN 35F eventually
      SOF 18B/18F 5th SFG/2nd BTN/Bravo Co. ODA & ODD I've been awarded many
      Medals, though I didn't join for that you can't exactly turn them down, in RE to you,
      My big fight is with the "commemorative" CWV MEDAL, mainly for my Father who
      Was not only behind enemy lines from '58 – '61 in Communist E. Germany
      USMLM, which for 8 mos was a POW there, no POW Medal though. Why a soldier
      Might ask, it wasn't a war' ok for those of us that fought the SU by proxy or not
      Deserve official recognition, I have filed no less than 3 Petitions through channels
      And congress even TIOH, ESP. Nam' vets men who trained me from '81- '06 I received
      Over 36 official as well as many classified ones, I never asked, nor wanted them
      And would gladly give them to soldiers The green machine huh? Keep up the
      Fight HooAhh, Ranger_Breeze

  4. Gary Chenett at 8:31 pm
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    This issueing of a "Combat Action Badge" is bull chit……..__ The only people that will benefit from such action as this medal are the retailers who sell it.__ You either earned it or you did not…..__The medal was designed for those who were crying because they did not train not quailfy and work in a 11 Prefix MOS.__ Why don't you call it what it really is and that is not put down but it's a Commerative Medal,__ No matter how you slice fluff it, It's not a Combat Badge. If a rear echelon person is eligible for it , there is your answer.____If you want to give a medal away make it was Straight Bronze Star with no V ,____In my Unit with the Big Red One in Nam if you got hit and did not require a dust off We refused Purple Hearts. Why because if you were a EM under E-4 made your year you got a ARCOM. If you were a E-5 and over you got a Bronze Metieious Medal No V

    • Charles Sevilla at 4:27 pm
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      Hey Gary, I understand your feelings man. In Vietnam many "remfs" did get medals that were BS, but what about the guy's in Dust Off units, the Nurses,Doctors, Air Force support, to the grunt ?? My twin brother was under rocket and morter fire, and VC sappers all the time! He was the 1st Cav. Div. , An Khe in 67'. He was on the C-130's , loader. Today in Afghanistan, many male/female soldiers get killed, blown off body parts, TBI, PTSD, that will be Honored by a Purple Hearts. , NO they can't get CIB, bet they were'nt sitting behind computers. Don't think I'm not for the grunt. Just thinking. Remember the movie where the bandit say's , " I don't need no stinking badge." We know what we did. Thanks for listening. Charlie, USA-RET. CMB. 91B.

    • Rj jones at 6:58 am
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      I guess we military police that was in nam don’t deserve it other,even tho we were shot at and hit on a daily basis.nam vet 67-68.graduated 2two test,so there.

      • Robert Stewart at 12:27 am
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        I have always said that MP’s should have a Combat MP’s badge. Cross pistols with a wreath to denote Combat MP’s who were in battles. Also FO’s should have been given a Combat Artillerymans badge. Cross Canons with a wreath to denote those who were with Infantry in the bush as Fo’s. Also FO’s for the air force. Propellers with wreath around it. To denote those who were with Infantry as FO’s. These FO’s fought the same ambushes we did. They got Purple Hearts, Bronze Stars, Silver Stars but no C I B. They should receive as I said. So it seems this new badge would solve this problem. They need to take the date back and award this to our deserving Brother’s.

    • Ted belajac at 12:41 pm
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      I agree…I was in Nam 69-70…Sp4 in heavy artillery… Was hit with sharpnel was refused the heart because medic said wasn’t bad enough… But that’s not what I read in Dago…my gun section was sent to fsb Barbara in 70…the gun blew up causing the powder bunker to catch fire…all of us risked our lives by removing all 500 plus canisters… Two guys were killed when their 175 breech block blew…the next morning the colonel came out and said all of us will get bronze stars..being that he ordered that gun to fire even though it was deadlined..my gun section was erased from the records as being there… It was a cover up…then I found out he awarded only 8 stars and only to that unit

    • Larry at 8:47 pm
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      Gary said it-you earned it or you didn’t
      Yall sound like the parents of kids sport teams that want a trophy for everyone.

      Everybodys a grunt until its time to do grunt stuff. Stfu crybabies

  5. rich chabot at 8:35 pm
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    11echo 10 and 11echo 20 sometimes had night patrols as well as dismounted search of villages,we also should be qualified for the CIB

    • R. Baker, 1SG(Ret.) at 11:07 am
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      Gary, I also agree 4 purples, last one took me out, as I tell my wife I didn't enlist
      For medals or benefits even, if I was wounded and forced out which happened,
      The only thing I fight for is my right to be retired officially, with honorable , I have
      No want nor desire for medals, recognition after 26 years I had to take honorable
      with 214 status, not retirement with benefits, I was refused so as I separated I attempted
      To state on record I swore an oath to…. I don't recall there being an expiration charge
      R. Baker, 11B/35F/18B/18F/18Z 1ID, 82nd A/B, 75th RR/SOF 5th SFG ODA TRIPLE NICKEL

  6. Jason Seitz at 11:22 pm
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    I agree that not everyone serving in a combat zone is deserving of this badge. That's what the combat patch is for. Just like the CIB, the CAB should be awarded to personnel who actively engage or are engaged by the enemy. I am an Iraqi War vet, deployed to Kuwait in early 2003 and subsequently served in Iraq from the beginning. I was in an artillery battery with the 101st: been SCUD attacked, small arms fire multiple times and actively participated in artillery combat ops although I was a 92Y. But per the reg, I cannot receive this award because I don't have witness statements and incident reports. THEY WEREN'T EVEN CREATED! So even though I meet ALL the criteria minus the paperwork and actually EARNED this badge, I'm ineligible. I agree Gary, it IS bull chit…

  7. Donn Sinclair at 7:12 am
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    Gary C.'s right. Fact is, when I was in, (1st ID, Vietnam 69-70), if you were in a support unit and really wanted a CIB, all you had to do was tell your CO. You'd be in a leg unit that day. B Co. 720th Bn. 18th MP Bde. pulled grunt duty, infantry sweeps, ambushes. But their MOS was 95B so regardless of mission or contact, no CIB. You're either 11B or you're not. I don't care what Congress says, CAB's not going on my ribbon rack.

    • Rj jones at 7:03 am
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      What kind I duty did you pull?I also was in 720 67-68 we got shot at every time we went out,some of us were even hit,I guess we were not engaging the enemy the A?

  8. Herbert Horton at 11:05 am
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    Read the specs for this award. It should be awarded now, as it was in the beginning, only to the Infantry.
    To do otherwise, is to water down the original intend. Let the Close Action Badge suffice for the others.

  9. co99ken at 11:15 am
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    it should match the current requirements of being engaged by the enemy or engaging the enemy. if you have CIB you would not be eligible for the CAB. it was made for non 11B MOS. they should make it happen, my best freinds grandfather was in WW2 as a tanker and has 4 battel stars on his service ribbon, he should be able to wear a combat badge the same as the infantry soldiers that stood with him.

  10. Robert Webber at 7:41 pm
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    Can someone who is no longer living qualify for this award? Both my grandfathers were at Pearl Harbor, apparently 1 mile apart from each other and have both passed away. I'm interested in knowing if they ever received one or could I apply to get one on their behalf if I have their military information?

    • Roy Neve at 6:07 pm
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      You should be able to obtain that info from the VA. When I was in the SGS (Secretary of the General Staff), 25th ID (L), Schofield Bks, HI, 95-98, Division HQs' presented a few recipients who either were in action during the Second World War, Korea or the Vietnam wars to the service members or family members due to the military member had passed away. I felt bad and upset to those service members receiving the awards after so many years had passed and now are being presented these medals. Either the chain of command (COC) was too lazy to process the documents or the paperwork was lost to the COC or something else happened. Most of the time I've noticed that service members are just too upset to fight for what is right for themselves and decide to forget it because no one really pushed the paperwork forward for them. They just did the job and went forward with their careers and lived their lives till retirement or until the ETS'ed. I guess you are wondering how I know this, well I just retired from the Army about 15 1/2 months ago with over 29 plus years of service and my father retired from the Army in '86 with over 27 himself. I have spoken with many WWII and Vietnam vets who are glad they survived the battles and wars and are able to talk about it sometimes that is to individuals like me. I have read everyone's comments on this posting and some I agree while the others I don't agree with but everyone has their opinion about things. When my outfit returned from Iraq in late of December '08 after being away for 14-15 months my unit; HHC, 4th Bde, 3rd ID (M) were all on the parade field and the BC & CSM were passing out the awards it was a sham seeing all the award being presented. Out of the entire officers complement within the bde HQ only five officers did not receive the Bronze Star, only three Staff Sergeants (SSG) received this award out of all the enlisted within the unit. Two of the three SSGs' received the medal since they were responsible for the BC & CSM whenever they went out of the wire on escort for these two individuals. The third SSG received the medal because she was the S1 NCOIC during the deployment. Not one of the Platoon or Section Sergeants ranking of E-6 thru E-9 received the medal. Majority of the enlisted received the Army Commendation Medal (ARCOM) except for many of the higher enlisted grades. Why these NCO's did not get anything, I do not know. Many of them didn't really cared since majority of them were retiring the following year or PCS'ing out of the command. Many of the soldiers were fuming on the outcome of these awards especially the Bronze Stars being awarded to the officers whom many of them never left out of the Forward Operating Base (FOB) while being in country. For myself, I really didn't care for a medal or not since I was on many missions when I or many of my soldiers deserved higher awards but the awards were downgraded due to our ranks or the COC didn't recognized our accomplishments since we didn't work for them since the awards were submitted from our leaders who knew what we accomplished. Let me finish this post, I didn't realized that I was writing a manuscript here. Like many of my fellow veterans who wore the uniform before me have many gripes as the many who have served currently and in the future will have gripes too will discover that things are never right. Many of us could either keep on fighting for those awards that should have been presented to us long time ago or say heck with it. We know what we have accomplished and those who know us know that we should be awarded those awards. I'll put one more thing out there before I close this up, when I retired from the Army my unit never submitted an award for me for retirement. At the retirement ceremony I was awarded the MSM (Meritorious Service Medal) but never received the award or the orders. Seven months later I was called up from a First Sergeant (1SG) from my battalion who I did not know, informed me that I should go to the S1 to pick up my award or I could received it by mail. I asked the 1SG what award I was being presented; he informed me that I was receiving an ARCOM since the battalion dropped the ball on my award and the brigade stated that I should receive the ARCOM instead of the MSM. I informed the 1SG that the battalion can place that award where the sun didn't shine. Yes I was furious for many weeks, but as my spouse, parents, friends and many retirees who knew me, stated that I know what I've accomplished in my career what a medal is going to prove to anyone. After thinking about this for awhile, they were right in a way. I just figured that I deserved that medal, but I see that this happened just because I retired and I didn't PCS'ed to another unit or it good be that I had no one in my corner who would fight for me after I have fought for so many soldiers principles while I was posted in the many units that I’ve served in and when it came to me no one was there.

  11. Steve Mapa, Sr. at 10:16 pm
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    I hope that the Congressional debates now going on relative to award of the Combat Action Badge (C.A.B.) doesn't turn out the same way that our Congressional advocates cast aside the Cold War Medal.

    Yes, let's hope that deserving Vets since 12/7/1941 receive the C.A.B. Let's not forget that we who served in the "Cold War" also deserve to receive the medal appropriately named for our deserving service.

  12. Kenneth Burtch at 9:19 pm
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    I served in both the cold war, and Vietnam. I was with the 2/8th "Mech. Infantry 4th Infantry Division at FB Six outside DakTo 1967-68. I never received a CIB because I was Armour. We caught hell from the NVA in that area. I would appreciate this medal, not so much for me, but for my children.

  13. Tony W. at 10:08 am
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    I retired as a 19d and served in Desert Shield/ Desert Storm. Our Scout Platoon (1-18 Infantry) Reconned out in front of the 11B's and it was our Platoon that engaged the 3rd Commando Group, Republican Guard at An Nasiriyah. We held them and punched through them to our objective and held our objective in fact of being surrounded. We were ordered to fall back when the Infantry finally rolled up ( took an hour) and engaged them. We had two men wounded on that action and Yet, YET to this day SCOUTS (19d's) Do not receive anything similar to the CAB or CIB. Injustice?

  14. Dannny Freeman at 6:50 pm
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    I have been awarded the CIB so if they think I deserve this award so be it but I do believe anyone whoever served in combat should be awarded this automatically. Just send them to the ones who do deserve it since 1941.

  15. Jeff Daley at 1:28 pm
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    Personally I would like to see our politicians concentrate more on getting our military, especially those in combat, the equipment needed to mitigate risk and should they get wounded, make sure they receive the medical care necessary to get them main streamed ASAP. Example the protective underwear that helps protect the genitals and femoral arteries from IED. These were delayed on getting to the field because of "budget".

    If we can not budget for this then we should not be placing our military in harms way. Send the politicians instead – They have the premium heath care that is far and above those in the military. Sorry for the rant – I am just disgusted with how our politicians use and abuse the military both in yesteryear and it is getting worse today.

    Jeff Daley – MACV SOG Vietnam 1966 – 1969

    • Terry W. at 3:04 am
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      I agree Mr Daley ; I'd be right there watching a dozen or so congressmen go threw a month or two training and go with them on a tour in a combat zone … Let them go threw "normal" channels to try and get all the gear, ammo, food, clothing and tactical support they may require . And talk about back to back to back tours ! ! ! AH-hhh ,,, time to go … Jeff , and all you other fine folks out there that served ( and supported us at home ) A BIG Thank You for your service , And Welcome back HOME ! ! … Terry ,, Ban-Me-Thout 70 … Know of it Jeff ?

    • Ron Kidder at 9:54 am
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      Jeff, one of my best friends was SOG. He passed away two years ago from some type of Malaria that lay dormant all these years. Major Vitaus “Vits” Knuble was his name. He was an enlisted Medic on a team before he volunteered for SOG.

  16. Mike Johnson - 7Cav at 10:47 am
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    A CIB is award specififcally designed to honor the 11 series soldiers who have to hard slog it in direct action with the enemy, However since World War II the Battlefield has changed. Cooks, Medic, Supply personal have all found themselves under fire from the enemy, when that occurs their experience under fire should be honored, as it is now for all those who face direct enemy action. I also wonder about the Cavalry, when we fight dismounted, are we not a modern dragoon, or mounted Infantry, fighting nose to nose with an enemy to clear a route of advance for the heavy mechs? or mabye when my predecessors flew into a hornets nest in Vietnam, once in, they were just like infantry. Perhaps we could give a service branch award, Combat (Insert Branch) Badge for each of the MOS's to recognize them. just a thought. & Gerry Owen!!

  17. Richard S Iaeger at 1:10 am
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    I see the 11 Bravos telling us other guys why should we get a medal for just being there. Well Partner as an E-5 Squad leader with A Btry 4th Bat. 60th ADA '"DUSTERS" WE RAN THE ROADS FOR CONVOY'S, PULLED FIREBASE SECURITY, and CLOSE FIRE SUPPORT (DIRECT) FOR INFANTRY. If you check you will see that dusters and quad 50's were just about in every major action in Vietnam from the start to the finish. We did not get CIB's or anything else. Just some little things like one CMH, some DSC's many Silver stars and Bronze stars with V device. Check out Arty history and see which unit had the most Purple hearts. So do you still think us OTHER guys don't deserve a close combat medal.

  18. Bill Schirrmacher at 10:55 pm
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    When I arrived in Vietnam my MOS had nothing to do with combat. Yet I never preformed that duty. I was assigned to the 5th Infantry Division at Quang Tri as a tanker with B Co. 1/77 Armor and stayed with them until I left country. We saw action in the Khe Shan area, Con Thien, Fire Support Base C2 area. Lz Sharon and other area along the DMZ. No one in the1/77th was awarded a CIB even being a part of a Mechanized Infantry Division. I was not an 11E Mos but it was the position I held in Vietnam. There were many who did the duty of the11 mos without being one.They should have something that shows the engaged with
    or by the enemy and fought as an infantry soldier.

  19. Ralph Capps at 11:17 pm
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    I think this would be justified and I further feel that the Army Service and the Overseas Service ribbon should be included also. As we all prior to the award date went through the same training and hardships. And what is it really gonna cost the Department of Defense? Ink correcting DD-214's?

  20. Robert at 1:00 pm
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    I was in the Caribbean Ocean in Navy during a Counter Drug Operations with the DEA, and a USCG detachment firing live rounds at night with tracers at a drug running boat. But this is not considered combat action?

  21. David Bradley at 11:06 am
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    I served off the coast of Nam for two tours. We were shot at by the bad guys because we were on SAR duty. Our flight deck was lite up so the fly boys could find us if they needed us. Made for a perfect target for the bad guys yet we never got any medals for that. If you served in a war zone and it is deserved than everyone should get the award not just the Army. Yes they earned one no matter their MOS and a lot of them were in high danger time but so were the Marines and the Nave and the Air Force.

  22. scallywag007 at 6:18 am
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    You guys all talk about 11 series MOSs should be the only jobs eligible for this. There is a 19 series MOS that should have a Combat badge as well. And deserves it just as much as any infantry person. I don't know if any of you pay attention but there are many tankers with some pretty severe injuries due to combat engagements.

  23. Johnnie Cox at 6:37 pm
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    Congress will balk on the cost of presenting all of these medals. I'm sure that the soldiers eligible will be more than glad to pay for them….

  24. Harold Ledbetter at 6:50 pm
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    I served in Vietnam (1969-1972) with the 46th combat engineers building highway QA1 on several occasion we were fired upon by VC snipers Does this cualify?

    Harold W. Ledbetter Co C 46th combat Engineers Vietnam 1969-1971

  25. Steve Martin at 8:08 pm
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    I spent 18 months in RVN (Army E-5) from 1969-71. Although I was not a grunt I was engaged in one fire fight with a sapper team, too close to an incoming 122mm rocket on another and sniped at on several occasions.

    I would never begrudge the men of the infantry for the CIB, but I'd appreciate something for having put my skin in the game.

  26. Steve Martin at 1:43 pm
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    I intend to write my congressional reps seeking support of making the CAB retroactive to those who served in Vietnam under the same criteria used for awarding it today. Here's the basic criteria from the Army.mil website:

    "The requirements for award of the CAB are Branch and MOS immaterial. Assignment to a Combat Arms unit or a unit organized to conduct close or offensive combat operations, or performing offensive combat operations is not required to qualify for the CAB. However, it is not intended to award all soldiers who serve in a combat zone or imminent danger area."

    In my 18 months of service in RNV w/ the ARMY I came under enemy 122mm rocket, 82 mm mo tar and small arms fire in several different actions.

    Clearly the infantry badge CIB should continue to be awarded as it has and is today.

  27. Bruce Eddings at 2:02 pm
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    Why doesn't the Air Force have something similar to this or even being under fire?

    • C H at 7:27 am
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      The Air Force DOES have something similar, it’s called the Air Force Combat Action Medal (and ribbon) and was introduced in 2007. It is non-MOS specific. The Navy (and Marine Corps) has the Combat Action Ribbon (Navy CAR) retroactive to WWII. It is non-MOS specific. The Army is the only branch that has an MOS-specific combat action badge and it is the CIB/CMB only for Infantry and Combat Medics. This was changed in 2005 with the CAB. It’s about time they followed the Navy’s lead and made a non-MOS specific badge to recognize the combat action of all eligible uniformed personnel, AND make it retroactive to WWII. Too much d*ck measuring in the military (i.e., my combat was tougher than yours. B.S.) and not enough shared pride and brotherhood among those who did the deed regardless of their MOS. Relax grunts, no one is taking anything away from you or diminishing what you’ve done. How could they? You were there, you did it, you earned it. But guess what? So did a whole bunch of others who were not 11B. Share the pride Brothers.

      Peace.

  28. randy jennings at 10:04 pm
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    My father served WW2 and Korea – Earned purple hearts in both – combat in germany, asia korea
    Would he qualify – Navy in WW2 – Army after that – quartmaster and KMAG

  29. Manuel at 3:57 am
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    I was in Viet Nam in 1967 and 1968. I was in USARVN support and had a 31L40 MOS field radio relay and carrier repair, and a crypto center. I was in Qui Nhon and Dong Ha alternatively. Dong Ha is up north by the DMZ. Repairing the electronic equipment was our responsibility, but it turned out as a hobby. My detachment had to pull guard duty, go on search and destroy missions and defend our compound from Charlie if he decided to attack us. Were we supposed to say we could not pull guard duty because we could not fire guns? Were we supposed to refuse orders to go on patrol because we did not have an infantry MOS? Were we suppose to refuse missions we were assigned because we were not smart as an 11B soldier is? Until today, I cannot comprehend how a soldier can be sent to a combat zone, see action, return fire, and after the battle be told that he should not have returned fire because you are not an 11B infantryman. Is anyone caught in that situation supposed to quiver and piss on his pants and yell at the enemy "Don't Shoot, I am not fighting you. I am a communications technician and all I am doing is trying to repair some equipment so we can tell the Infantry Units where you are. Then, you guys can shoot each other,because the Infantry know how to fight and we do not. I must admit I was so wrong. Now I know why the HIPPIES felt the way they acted in California.

  30. Bill G at 2:54 pm
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    I am a Vietnam Veteran 68/69 and served in non-combat unit. However, this does not mean I never was involved in combat operations. From my personal perspective action outside the wire happen to me and this would be a good start to ending the whole I feel about my service. I believe there are thousands Vietnam veterans’ that would feel validated.

  31. SGT E-5 Martin at 11:08 am
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    I have been in contact with Rep Nugent of Florida who sponsored legislation. Unfortunately, this matter is pretty much dead.

    I would suggest any Vietnam era veteran who served on the ground be eligible to wear this badge.

    To my way of thinking it is somewhat analogous to the award of the Bronze Star for WWII Infantry veterans awarded the CIB.

    The case I presented to Rep Nugent and my Congressman in subsequent letters was that the tactical situation was one where contact with the enemy through rockets, mortars, sappers , mines and ambush was a real fact of life for many veterans.

    This war lasted 10 years and well over a million men served. It would be impossible to investigate whether all veterans on the ground had in fact been subject to hostile enemy contact. I know I sure was on several occasions.

    I am fines with knowing I can display my campaign ribbons and Bronze Star. I don’t need this badge as my personal memories of events serve me well to this day as a reminder. I don’t need non-veterans to “thank me for my service”. I wear my ribbons on patriotic holidays for my brothers as a way to re-establish the intense connection we had as young men in service to our nation in a thankless dirty little war.

    If the Congress of the United States can’t find it logical that we should be able to wear the CAB, well so be it.

  32. Frank L. at 10:03 am
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    I was an artillery forward observer with C Company 1/52 Infantry and accompanied it on every patrol it went out on between late October 1967 and late January 1968.

    Several men were killed or wounded, and I called in several artillery fire missions during that period.

    In late February 1968, I was shot and seriously wounded during my first patrol with E Company.

    Because I had an artillery MOS and not an infantry MOS, I wasn’t allowed to receive the C.I.B..

    I agree with Sgt. Martin that any Vietnam veteran who served in an active combat situation be allowed to receive and wear it.

  33. Walter at 4:11 pm
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    I think you need to be careful with such and award as many clerks, cooks who saw no combat would be filing for it. I was on Camp Eagle in the 101st as a wiremen switchboard operator. We did pull guard duty and did at times have to go on a firebase . We were mortar attacked but that is not the same as humping the bush. If your MOS was not combat but you were sent out into a rifle company and a CO can affirm that then I say OK. Some guys in Vietnam who did not have a combat MOS were sent into the bush. For such a award is justified. Medics especially. Others should just tell there war stories and be happy they were spared the grunts life.

  34. RAYMOND at 10:17 am
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    I was an engineer in Vietnam but volunteered for combat missions such as on Firebase Rakkasan, saw action in one day one would see Huey’s, Cobra’s, F-15’s and Bombers unload on a nearby hill then we would fire the 8″ and or mortars. Also most of my time was spent on perimeter in a bunker where during an alert I was gassed …puking eyes burning …what did we know at 18/19 years of age. I was not aware of some of the ribbons/awards I was due until recently but because I was not infantry it defines or should I say restricts what I am told I actually did and what medals I can receive even though being gassed during an alert meets the criteria for a PH and I guess any form of combat action medallion.

  35. Eliotte at 4:12 pm
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    I served in Vietnam in 1972. No C.I.B., even though I was 11B, after 2 months into my “tour” I was assigned to the M.P.’s due to a shortage of that MOS. We were hit steadily with sniper shots and rocket and mortar attacks on our base at Long Binh. This award, the A.C.B., should definitely be made retroactive to all who have served in a combat environment who were not eligible for a C.I.B. I hope Congress does the right thing.

  36. Weldon Haltom at 3:18 pm
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    I was an RTO, 05Bravo, so I am not eligible for a CIB, but me and a lot of other people with non-infantry MOS’s deserve some kind of badge of honor, the same as all those 11Bravo troops who earned their CIB’s. I’ve been home for 43 years, but it still bothers me, just like I can see it bothers a LOT of other veterans.

  37. Frank Otis at 4:56 pm
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    With two tours in Vietnam, the first as a forward observer for the infantry where everyone except me in the unit I was assigned got a Combat Infantryman Badge because they were 11Bs but I was a 13A I was not eligible but I was in more firefights than I can now remember after some 45 years; the 2nd tour was just as eventful when I was a 4.2 mortar battery commander just to the SW of LZ Uplift assigned to the 173d Airborne (anyone out there remember the “white house” at LZ English). Therefore, I certainly think that all of us old warriors that were engaged in direct combat, especially when we were serving directly with infantry units and/or direct support of infantry units should receive the CAB as we were denied CIBs.

  38. Gary Cummings at 3:05 pm
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    I was searching for exactly who qualified for a CIB when I found this web site. I found that my ARCOM wasn’t good enough to prove my combat experiences when I applied for PTSD. Only a CIB or a purple heart. We were overrun at FSB Nancy, I CORPS, Vietnam, April 13, 1970. Included with rpg’s,satchel charges, rocket and mortar and small arms fire, some of us engaged in hand to hand before we finally took control. Apparently without a CIB or PH my ARCOM is worthless. I did discover recently that ARCOM’s were handed out like candy to many who didn’t deserve to be decorated. Every swinging D deserved at least an ARCOM that night and a number of us got bronze and silver stars, as well as a Meritorious Unit Award. Still, I have to go to extreme lengths to prove my combat experience. My m.o.s. was 63c30 track mechanic with Service Btry. 1/39 FA. My hootch was the first one hit. Thanks to all who served and to those who commented. If I feel I’ve earned a CAB after research I’ll press my legislators to act.

  39. Sp/4 H.L.Harmon at 2:37 am
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    I was sent to LZ dog (English) in sept.66 to support the 1st air cav in operation masher and was reassigned a 31f Infantry commo chief. 68 days on c rations and mortar fire and small arms fire at night. Don’t qualify for the cib im told! No problem but would like the CAB. But it is not retroactive to Vietnam that I know of. Oh well! I was with the 18th Eng.Bde,84th engineers!

  40. Terry at 11:12 pm
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    My wife’s Grandfather served 320 days in combat during WW II as a forward observer for a 155 mm artillery battalion. They arrived at Normandy D+5 and were 1st 155 mm artillery unit to fire from Utah in support of the 101st. Served with the 82nd for their first 30 days in combat and served with the 16th Infantry Regiment on the trek through France and Belgium. Awarded 2 Distinguished Unit Citations (PUC’s). The unit was personally engaged in ground infantry tactics at Mons Belgium against an entrenched enemy force. Served at Hurtgrn Forrest, Aachen, Stolberg, Battle of the Bulge, and many battles in Germany. Five battle stars, French Croix de Guerre w/silver star, French Medal Militaire, French Legion of Honor, Belgian Croix de Guerre avec Palm, and Belgian Fourragere. I would think that considering their job was to engage the enemy with whatever weapon they had and at any proximity is certainly appropriate “combat” to be entitled the Combat Action Badge. I also feel that while every consideration should be afforded to our infantry, special forces, and medical personal who traditionally are the lead forces in combat that it is also fair and overdue that the other units that engage the enemy directly are recognized for their bravery, honor and sacrifice. It’s not so much about the “badge” as it is recognizing the contribution that these other units make in bringing the fight to the enemy.

  41. JOSEPH ANDERS at 11:05 pm
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    I REALLY DO FEEL SCREWED BY NOT GETTING THE COMBAT ACTION BADGE
    FOR MY COMBAT SERVICE AND DUTY’S FROM 1990/1991 THE GULF WAR
    I WAS PAYED DANGER PAY OVERSEAS PAY AND WAS IN A COMBAT ZONE
    PERFORMING COMBAT OPERATIONS AND WAS CLOSE TO THE FRONT
    LINE IF THAT DON’T PUT YOU IN FOR IT THEN WHAT THE HELL DOES
    IT SURE AS HELL NOT THOSE HARD ASS OFFICERS WHO REFUSE TO
    BELIEVE WHAT I SAY IS TRUE I WAS TOLD POINT BLANK THAT I DID
    NOT DESERVE IT OF EARN IT WELL I GUESS THAT PISSED ME OFF EVEN MORE SO I
    STARTED WRITING TO CONGRESS AND TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ARMY HOW IS IT AND
    WHY IS IT THAT THEY TREAT A COMBAT VETERAN WITH SUCH DISRESPECT AND
    DISGRACE BY TREATING THEM DENYING THEM THAT HONOR I BET IF THE SHOE WAS
    THEIR FEET THEY WOULD AWARD IT TO THEMSELVES AUTOMATIC PLEASE EXPLAIN
    IT TO ME OH YES I EVEN TRIED WRITING TO THE BRASS UP IN FORT KNOW KENTUCKY THE
    HARD ASSES AT FORT KNOX KENTUCKY AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO TOLD
    ME THAT GARBAGE ON THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COMBAT ACTION BADGE I WILL
    KEEP ON HOUNDING THEM UNTIL I GET WHAT I DESERVE AND EARNED I AM TIRED
    OF THE FIGHTING I AM HAVING TO GO THROUGH JUST TO BE HEARD THEY REALLY
    HURT MY PRIDE IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE ON THE REQUIREMENT
    FOR THE BADGE I WONDER WHAT THE PRESS WOULD SAY THAT WILL BE MY NEXT MOVE
    I WILL NOT BE SILENCED I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK UP ABOUT THIS TREATMENT
    IT IS MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH UNTIL THEY TAKE THAT AWAY THE WORLD IS REALLY
    SCREWED UP AND CONFUSED THEY REALLY NEED TO REREAD THE REQUIREMENTS
    ON THE BADGE BECAUSE I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT I AM RIGHT ON THE REQUIREMENTS
    THAT I STATED UP TOP IN THE MESSAGE
    THANK YOU
    ONE PISSED OFF COMBAT WOUNDED
    VETERAN US ARMY 22 YEARS

  42. Lolamarie Agins at 12:48 pm
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    Hello I am trying to see if my dad Dan Spivey qualifies for the Combat Action Badge. He was in the US Army during WWII 1941-1945. His occupation was Mortar Light NCO 607 CIB, in Company L 24th Infantry.

    Thank you
    V/r Lolamarie Agins USN Retired

    No, That award is for Sept 18, 2001 to present.

  43. Willie W. Mahan at 7:19 pm
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    When I was in Viet Nam I was a Crew Chief / Door Gunner on UH-1D helicopters . We was always getting shot at and some of them hit us . I was shot down on more then one occasion . We was not put in for the CIB because we had the wrong MOS , but the Inf. guys was awarded Air Medals for Combat Assalts. And in Desert Storm Scudds coming in on your ass does not count. Or chemicals blowing in from the north on people does not count . Its like living under the Oil Field Fires for 60+ day does not count for any kind of disability . I have COPD and I think I got it from that .
    WILLIE W. MAHAN
    1SG , U.S.Army (Ret)

  44. Gary Cummings at 10:47 am
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    History: Vietnam 69-70 Artillery unit on a fire support base. Overran April 1970. Close combat conditions. Awarded ARCOM. Was proud to be decorated. Over the years learned a lot about the fair and unfair receiving awards. I don’t need the Combat Artillery Badge for my ego. But in order to qualify for VA benefits you are required to have either a CIB, purple heart, or something higher than an ARCOM. That leaves thousands and thousands of us who saw combat, with no standing. A buddy letter may qualify you if you can acquire one. It makes it a nightmare to get service connected disability ratings or VA health care. P.S. I would be uncomfortable getting a CIB if I were a company clerk and saw no combat.

  45. Albert at 3:27 pm
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    My Dad, my brother and myself served our country. All three of us did the Vietnam tour and survived without injury. My Dad is dead, my brother is going to be 71 this year and I will be turning 67. I can tell you that all three of us encountered some form of combat while in Vietnam. My Dad and brother were in Vietnam at the same time, 1967/1968. They survived TET of 68. I was in Vietnam 1970/1971. I was 11B assigned to 101st ABRN, Camp Evans. After our time in Vietnam, I can tell you that we NEVER discussed what we had seen or done while in Vietnam. I feel that a TRUE combat veteran does not need to voice his history to anyone… they just want to “forget”. So for you that want to pursue a chunk of metal to show the world of your heroics…

  46. Frank L. at 11:41 am
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    According to what I’ve read, the Department Of Defense made a decision in January 2016 to leave the criteria as it currently stands and chose not to make the Combat Action Badge retroactively eligible to combat veterans of earlier wars.

  47. Arty Lab at 5:17 pm
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    Ive been reading through the majority of the comments here, and I would like to add that as most of everyone here has felt direct combat action (i.e: pulling the trigger/lanyard) or on the receiving end of the enemy’s munitions. I would agree with the fact that for #1: yes, regardless of your MOS if you happen to be in that situation and have to return fire/ receive fire yourself, anyone should be eligible for the CAB; #2: yes, it should be retroactive back to 07Dec41, albeit, a HUMUNGOUS undertaking by the Human Resources Command (HRC). So what is a solution for that? Ive told my troops soooooo many times in the past, “its human nature to complain, that’s fine, but rather than just venting/complaining, offer me how you would fix/do/change this for the better. I hear ya, but I listen to solutions.” Possible solution would be to contract a historical group to comb thru the records, and provide a candidate list. #3: No, the CAB approval authority shouldn’t be the first 0-7 in the CoC, that’s too far “red tape” wise to be essential. Lately, the deploying units sizes are Brigade Combat Team, size an 0-6 position, or even smaller size units. That would be ideal for the appropriate approval authority since the 0-6 is closer to the battalion and company elements and will redeploy, i.e. shorter paper trail, local commander, and has a more personal relation to the troops on the ground and unit. I don’t agree that an 0-10 warrants a CAB because the base was mortared on the other side of the base, but to justify the award its mentioned that the attack was directed at the command and to hinder or disrupt the operations at hand. blah, blah, blah. So it disgusts me to see uber senior officers wear the CAB because of an ego status and not for actual DIRECT COMBAT. Can you seriously imagine that a Theater Commander (0-10) is going to pull a trigger. Ya, that’s what I thought too, not hardly!
    Anyhow, in summary, I agree the CAB should be retro’d to Pearl Harbor, and an ambiguous award standard of MOS/Rank should be implemented. (Touch your collar) “this will never out rank… (touch your head) …. this”. Rank doesn’t equate to award level, only accomplishment.

    Thanks for your patriotism, bravery, and valor (even the unrecognized acts)

    V/R
    Saudi, Somalia, OIF Combat vet
    USMC (’91-’98) (0811)
    USA (’99-’14) (92L38E)

  48. TJ Johnson at 7:54 pm
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    I served in the Gulf War, I was an Artillery 13B, engage the enemies numerous time and came under fire. I feel that it’s only right to award the CIB to soldiers who served in war under war conditions. I’m hoping this will be approved as soon as possible. A lots of veterans are no longer with us and as time pasts we loss even more. We need to set the records straight and approve this award to be issue..

  49. Jose at 7:24 pm
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    Well there are combat in danger humans in booths females cooks and photographers all sorts of jobs in the armed forces endanger in war situation I want all Combat exposed soldiers to be granted something to hang for their relatives

  50. charles bear logsdon at 7:46 pm
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    chuck you know as I call may- 69 a base called xuan loc. we got our asskicked . the enemy even got into the compound. we fought our ass off all night long. until the light of day. many times that night. we came face to face with the enemy . I lost good friends there. that was just one time. all the other times don,t count ether. they don,t call that cobat action ether. so I gess the badge is out. guys I love you all for we all fought for. we win in the end. GOD BLESS all chuck

  51. JOSEPH Z ANDERS 3 at 8:29 pm
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    I THINK IT IS BULLSHIT THAT I WAS NOT AWARDED THE COMBAT ACTION BADGE
    I WAS IN THE FIRST GULF WAR FROM 1990 TILL 1991 I RECEIVED COMBAT PAY
    OVER SEAS PAY HAZARD DUTY PAY DANGER PAY EMIT DANGER PAY BUT I WAS NOT AWARDED
    THE CAB I FEEL LIKE I WAS SCREWED I AM ALSO A COMBAT WOUNDED
    VETERAN 100% DISABLE I HAVE SEVERE P T S D FROM COMBAT
    AND I STILL TOLD BY THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFINCE THAT I DID NOT
    EARN IT OR DESERVE IT I AM STILL TO THIS DAY FIGHTING TO GE THE
    AWARD I STILL HAVE NOT
    GOT ALL MY AWARDS FROM OPERATION DESERT STORM/SHIELD I AM BEING TREATED
    SO UNFAIRLY ON THIS PLEASE RESPOND

  52. John Weaver at 3:13 am
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    I feel that my service in Vietnam and the fact I spent 30 days in field hospital as a result of action supporting the 1st Cav and 173rd ABN and the action taken in the Tet offensive. IEven though I’m no longer on active duty now it would be great to get the recognition I and my fellow vets deserve.

  53. Gary wanczak at 6:14 am
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    Father ww2 D-Day landing all the way to Antwerp then 180 days of V-1 &V-2 attacks. Is this combat by enemy fire? 519th Port Bn. Why no combat badge for them? GW Son

  54. Gary D. Bell at 7:51 pm
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    Anytime you get into the subject of military awards, you are going to get varied comments such as have been sent on this blog. Many veterans were denied awards that they merited and many received undeserved awards, but the Combat Action Badge is a way of recognizing military personnel who were engaged in actual combat with an armed enemy but ineligible for other awards that were established by a certain MOS. I served in Vietnam for a year with the 25th Infantry Division as a VCI team chief, gathering information on the VC and NVA, preparing targets and going out with the infantry battalions and engaging the enemy with them. I was in many firefights and am proud of my combat service. The CAB should be awarded retroactive to December 7, 1941 for the many, who like myself, were engaged in actual combat as part of their duties during all wars. The award of the CAB does not take away from the prestige of any other combat award, but to officially receive authorization, proof should be required of the combat service of the recipient.

  55. JAMES E PARIS at 4:07 pm
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    I WAS IN CAMP ENARI,PLIEKU,VIETNAM.I DID RECON AND 30 DAYS ON A C.A.TEAM.FROM AUG 68-69/FEB-NOV-70.MY FRIST TOUR I STARTED OUT AS A RADIO MAN.AFTER 2 MONTHS I BECAME MACHINE GUNNER.CARRIED 1000 ROUNDS,EVERYONE EXCEPT THE LUI AND 2 RADIO MEN CARRIED 100 ROUNDS FOR ME.WE WENT OUT HUMPING THE MOUNTAINS.WENT IN TO CAMBODIA A COUPLE OF TIMES.OUR MAIN OBJECTIVE WAS TO CALL IN ARTILLARY.WALKED INTO A CAMP OF NVA SOLDIERS 3,600.WE HELD THEM OFF UNTIL THE COBRAS ARIVIED,THEY HAD ENOUGH ROCKETS TO WIPE OUT THE 4TH.DIV 4 TO 10 TIMES.BEEN CHASED THEW THE JUNGLE.THE C.A.TEAM I WAS ON EVERYONE WAS K.I.A. I WAS THERE REPLACEMENT.AFTER 30 DAYS WE GOT HIT I WORKED THE 50 CAL ALL NIGHT UNTIL I CUT THE SUPPORT OFF PINNED THE GUN.WALKED INTO AMBUSHES.C.A. TEAM GOT OVER RUN WE WHERE IN THE AREA PATROLING 10 K.I.A.1WIA AND A MEDIC I NEW THEM

  56. JAMES E PARIS at 7:38 am
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    I WAS WITH A co. S&T Bn. 4th.I.D. CAMP ENARIE PLIEKU,VIETNAM.AUG.68-69/FEB-NOV-70.I DID RECON FOR THE BATTALION,AND 30 DAYS ON C.A.TEAM.I’M 1 OUT OF 37 TO SURVIVE.GENERAL STONE CAME TO MY COMPANY TO GIVE ME A BRONZE MEDAL.FOR THE 3,600 NVA THAT WE FOUGHT ALL 12 OF US GOD BLESS THEM RIP.WE WOULD RECON THE MOUNTAINS OF THE CAMBODIAN BOARDER.I NEVER RECIEVED A CIB.KILLED MANY GOOKS.I’M 100%

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